{"id":4620,"date":"2011-03-15T11:55:59","date_gmt":"2011-03-15T18:55:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.infoblox.com\/?p=4620"},"modified":"2020-05-06T10:31:44","modified_gmt":"2020-05-06T17:31:44","slug":"bad-blood-and-world-ipv6-day","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.infoblox.com\/blog\/ipv6-coe\/bad-blood-and-world-ipv6-day\/","title":{"rendered":"Bad Blood and World IPv6 Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-weight: 300;\">Here at Infoblox, we&#8217;re gearing up for\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/isoc.org\/wp\/worldipv6day\/\">World IPv6 Day<\/a>.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.infoblox.com\/en\/solutions\/technology-solutions\/ipv6.html\">Our appliances have supported IPv6<\/a>\u00a0for sometime now, but we&#8217;d never gone to the trouble of providing services over IPv6, mostly for lack of demand.\u00a0But we wanted to participate in World IPv6 Day, so we called around for carriers who could provide IPv6 connectivity.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 300;\">Our IT guys decided to go with\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cogentco.com\/\">Cogent<\/a>\u00a0(one of the worlds largest Internet Service Providers, so they say), which already had a presence in our colocation facility and so could provide connectivity quickly.\u00a0The cost was also very reasonable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 300;\">Once the connectivity was set up, IT asked Andy, one of our product managers, and me to test it, since we both have IPv6 networks at home.\u00a0I&#8217;d set my connectivity up through\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.he.net\/\">Hurricane Electric<\/a>\u00a0using a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/tunnelbroker.net\/\">free tunnel broker<\/a>\u00a0they offer, and so did Andy.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 300;\">Well, try as we might, neither of us could reach the Infoblox web server via HTTP or ping6. Various web sites that check IPv6 connectivity could, however.\u00a0And those same web sites could reach servers at my house and Andys.\u00a0It didn&#8217;t make sense.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 300;\">Until we did a Google search for Cogent AND Hurricane Electric.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 300;\">Turns out these two ISPs have a long-running dispute over IPv6 peering, or free exchange of traffic. Hurricane Electric, commonly known as HE, would like to peer with Cogent, but Cogent refuses.\u00a0HEs founder and CEO, Mike Leber, explained their position in an\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/mailman.nanog.org\/pipermail\/nanog\/2009-October\/014017.html\">email message<\/a>.\u00a0He said they&#8217;d done everything but bake Cogenta cake in their attempts to persuade them to peer.\u00a0And then they baked them a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/77519640@N00\/4031434206\/\">cake<\/a>. 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